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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 07:27:49 PST
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #221


Info-Mac Digest             Tue,  9 Nov 93       Volume 11 : Issue 221

Today's Topics:

      [*] A Resource Guide: using Japanese on Your Mac
      [*] Dockernaut 1.3
      [*] HQXer 1.1
      [*] MicroArchitecture Simulator 1.0b3
      [*] Now Compress Expander 1.0.1
      [*] PeekABoo 1.0.1
      [*] Photos-for-Desktop-2.hqx
      [*] SIL-IPA12.SEA.HQX
      [*] Slime Invaders 2.0.1
      [*] StyleWriter I+ hack
      [*] Upload for Mac Archives
      [*] Wayang puppets startupscreen
      "Talk" answering machine?
      (A:) VRAM VS DRAM
      660AV- Problem with Virtual Memory
      A/UX on PowerBook?
      annotations in Word 5.1 ? (q)
      Apple //c to Mac by cable: OK, now it works
      Bernoulli vs. Syquest? Help, please
      Bold Symbols
      Cannot access Sumex nor info-mac at Rice (A)
      e-mailing files from AOL to Internet (Q)
      Equilibrium info
      Ethernet hardware address before Network is EtherTalk
      Eudora 1.4 and BinHex (C)
      FAA Exam Software Recommendations?
      FW: CPU usage (C)
      How can an application find
      Imagewriter I (A)
      Imagewriter I (R)
      Info-Mac #220 and Disinfectant 3.3
      LC475 upgrade [Q]
      LocalTalk or Mac IIsi - which is the bottleneck? (Q)
      Looking for Jurassic Park sounds
      MacPlus memory upgrade (R)
      MacUser/Macworld/MacWEEK indexes
      NCSA Mosaic
      Ofoto version 2.02
      PB 170 Video Out (Q)
      PB internal Supra 14.4 fax modem (Q
      PD Unix for Mac (Q)
      Port for floppy drive
      QuarkXPress list (Q)
      Rebooting after toggling the 040 cache
      Relational database for Mac (R)
      Telnet Connect via HyperTCP
      Trash oddities
      Unixes
      Upgrade possibilities for Mac SE [Q]
      Vaxen and Internet access
      Water marks in MS Word 5.1 (I did it!) (C)
      Where can I find tech descr

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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1993 00:47:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Yuji Nakazato <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] A Resource Guide: using Japanese on Your Mac

           "Using Japanese on Your Mac: a resource guide"

           $B!!!X%^!!%C!!%/!!$G!!F|!!K\!!8l!!$r!!;H!!$&!Y(J

    If you are a beginning Mac user, and want to use Japanese
    on you Mac, this guide might be for you.

    This resource guide (17 pages) provides you with adequate
    information to make informed decisions when you want to use
    the Japanese language on the Apple Macintosh computer. Topics
    covered in this guide include hardware requirements, available
    software for word processing, communications, and Japanese
    language learning, as well as some tips for troubleshooting.
    These topics take the easy-to-read "Questions & Answers"
format.
    The appendix section has the following: a) TrueType fonts
    included in KanjiTalk 7, b) vendor list, c) list of FTP sites
    for Japanese software, and d) other resources.

    I compiled this resource guide for my students at Georgetown,
    but it should be useful to any Japanese speaker in North
America.

    The file size is about 360K -- it is large because it contains
    two bitmap PICT files (300 dpi) showing all kanji TrueType
    fonts bundled with KanjiTalk 7. You don't need KanjiTalk to
    print the guide.

    *** end of description ***

[Archived as /info-mac/info/using-japanese-on-your-mac.hqx; 360K]

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 17:52:36 -0600
From: "Steven F. Martin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Dockernaut 1.3

Dockernaut is a shareware ($15) control panel/extension for
Macintoshes (especially Duos) that are frequently used with different
sized monitors or different docks.  It allows you to have different
sets of preferences for applications and extensions.

Version 1.3 adds better control of Now Startup Manager and Conflict
Catcher II (2.0.1 or greater) and improved documentation.  It has also
been tested with the new Duo 270c.

Dockernaut requires System 7.0 and a 68020 or better Macintosh.

Questions, and suggestions should be sent to [e-mail].

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/dockernaut-13.hqx; 38K]

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 17:28:23 -0800 (PST)
From: John Stiles <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] HQXer 1.1

    HQXer 1.1: HQXer allows the user to encode and decode BinHex archives
in the most efficient way possible. Utilizing System 7's Drag-and-Drop tech-
nology along with high-speed caching and native 68000 optimization, HQXer
takes BinHex archiving to the limits of the Macintosh itself. HQXer requires
System 6.0.7 or later, and should be given out with every Internet account.
And, it's only $10 shareware! Hope you like it...       *Stiles

[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/hqxer-11.hqx; 49K]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 13:42:54 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Alex Rodella)
Subject: [*] MicroArchitecture Simulator 1.0b3

MicroArchitecture Simulator models a microprogrammed processor
similar to the one described in the book "Structured
Computer Organization" by Andrew S. Tanenbaum. Its hardware
components and its instruction set are fixed (not too much,
as you will see) but its microprogram is fully editable in a
user friendly manner. The processor has access to a 128K
Random Access Memory (it borrows from your Mac); you can
easily view, modify, load or save this portion of memory.
You can run programs and debug them with a step by step
execution. Namely, you can advance by a conventional
instruction, by a microinstruction, and even by a clock
subcycle observing the internal parts of the processor.

It **requires** System 7 or later.
Remember to take a look at the balloons.

This application is FREE! Enjoy yourself!

Fabrizio Oddone

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/micro-simulator-10b3.hqx; 90K]

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 12:03:03 PST
From: [e-mail] (Joe Yan)
Subject: [*] Now Compress Expander 1.0.1

Hello,

Here is version 1.0.1 of Now Compress's expander program, for decompressing
archives compressed by Now Compress.  This is to replace version 1.0.

[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/now-compress-expander-101.hqx; 118K]

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 19:26:10 PST
From: Elden Wood <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] PeekABoo 1.0.1

Please include this in the Mac section. It is a fully configurable utility to
give status on the programs currently running. Requires system 7 or greater.

Sincerely,
Elden Wood

File follows:

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/peek-a-boo-101.hqx; 67K]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 17:31:43 +1100 (EST)
From: Michael Bradshaw <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Photos-for-Desktop-2.hqx

I didn't give much of an introduction to the release of the first volume
so I will make up for it now with Volume 2.

Introduction
Photos for your Desktop is collection of desktop artwork designed to sit
on your Macintosh desktop and provide something restful for your eye to
look at while you go about your Macintosh business.  Each set consists of
three parts-

The first part is the "Viewer".
This contains color previews of all the photos, captions that make some
comments on the image content, photo notes explaining how the image was
taken and/or subsequently edited, and a nifty locations map showing where
in the world the photograph was taken.  The Viewer can also be used to
install the artwork in the appropriate places if you are not over-savvy
with that sort of thing.

The second part is the picture collection proper.
There are desktop picture files for each of the photos and each can be
used either as a startupscreen or, more usually, as a desktop background
using either the shareware program Decor or similar, or the commercial
program Now FunPictures.  Each picture file is a full-screen version of
the small photograph contained in the viewer and consequently looks quite
impressive once installed.

The third and last part of the collection is a set of pixel patterns
derived from the photographs.  These are all 128 x 128 pixels in full
color.  The patterns, with exceptions, are mostly "photograph-orientated"
(compared with the other genres of patterns-  textures and cartoons).
Formats are available for the shareware programs Desktop Textures and
Before Dark -- ppat -- and for the commercial programs Wallpaper(tm) and
The Living Desktop(tm).

There have been two Photos for your Desktop volumes so far.  Volume 1 was
an "Around the World" set containing postcard-style pictures of scenic
places in a few far apart countries.

Volume 2, which is the set accompanying this document, is more
thematically based and is titled "Earth, Sea, & Sky".  It contains
timeless natural imagery with no human artefacts or activity present.  All
photos in this volume were taken on the East coast of Australia, and there
are...  pictures of waves crashing against rocks, sunlight glinting off
the sea around a sandy beach, sunset soaked clouds, palm trees against a
fiery sky ...that sort of thing.

Each Photos for you Desktop volume has a discountable shareware fee of
US$10 and is normally supplied compressed on 2 HD disks.

This Downloadable Edition (well, downloadable if you have a fast modem,
it's about 750K binhexed) contains a fully operational Viewer containing
10 color pictures & pattern previews, 1 full-screen desktop picture, and
four 8-bit / 16-bit pixels patterns in all formats.

Hope you like it.  Any comments would be most welcome.

Michael Bradshaw
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/photos-for-desktop-v2.hqx; 759K]

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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1993 10:34:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Evan L. Antworth 214-709-3346" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] SIL-IPA12.SEA.HQX

This is an updated version (1.2) of the SIL IPA fonts and
should replace all older versions on all archives.

The SIL Encore IPA Fonts are a set of scalable IPA fonts
containing the full International Phonetic Alphabet with 1990
Kiel revisions. Three typefaces are included: SIL Doulos
(similar to Times), SIL Sophia (similar to Helvetica), and SIL
Manuscript (monowidth). Each font contains all the standard
IPA discrete characters and non-spacing diacritics as well as
some suprasegmental and puncuation marks. Each font comes in
both PostScript Type 1 and TrueType formats.

[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/font/sil-ipa-12.hqx; 422K]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 10:47:47 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Ingemar Ragnemalm)
Subject: [*] Slime Invaders 2.0.1

This is a new version of Slime Invaders, a shoot-em-up arcade game for
the Mac. It is Space Invaders-style, with a gun at the bottom, and various
enemies attacking from above. You move your gun sideways and shoot down
nasties as fast as you can while avoiding to get hit. Complete with a modest
assortment of silly enemies - as there should be in a game like this.

The game should work on all Macs. Several options are included to choose
between compatibility and speed, most notably the choice between Quickdraw
and direct-to-screen drawing. Macs slower than IIsi should use the latter
if possible.

Now in COLOR when available (but don't worry, it still runs on my old SE),
and with the SLIMY COD IN A TOASTER! (Fix from 2.0 to 2.0.1: the toaster
now appears in all games, not just the first after loading.)

Free for personal use. Consider paying the $15 for my shareware pack
(7 games including Bachman, MacSokoban etc) if you think it's fun.

/Ingemar Ragnemalm

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/slime-invaders-201.hqx; 269K]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 09:52:53 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Igor Livshits)
Subject: [*] StyleWriter I+ hack

Hello,

This is a somewhat enhanced version of Adam Schenker's hack to safely use the
new StyleWriter II driver with the older StyleWriter printers.

The StyleWriter II driver is not included; you have to get it from Apple...

Please read the enclosed 'read-me' file.
This release includes an error correction in the instructions; the patch
itself is the same. Thanks to Harmon Dow for catching the error!

Cheers, Igor

[Archived as /info-mac/prn/stylewriter-ii-hack.hqx; 25K]

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Date: 8 Nov 1993 08:17:02 -0800
From: "Mike Weasner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Upload for Mac Archives

Here is ExAminer 1.0, an application that is similar to the various extension
manager type of programs, but being an application, has more features and a
nicer interface.

ExAminer supports Macintosh Plus and newer computers. ExAminer requires System
7.0 or later. ExAminer is compatible with multiple monitors and large screen
monitors.

ExAminer is a shareware program. If you like and use ExAminer, please send
your name and mailing address to the author along with the $10.00 (U.S.)
shareware fee. Registered users of ExAminer will receive support via online
services, and future updates free or at reduced cost. In fairness to those who
register, unregistered users will not receive any support.

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/examiner-10.hqx; 70K]

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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1993 12:00:54 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Wayang puppets startupscreen

This is a 1024x768 stuffed & binhexed 8 bit colour startupscreen, showing two
shadow play puppets ("Wayang Kulit", Indonesia) against a phantasy darkish
lit "blanket". I scanned two pictures, combined those, photoshopped the
background, and used GIFConverter 2.3.3 to turn it into the startupscreen.
HSchotel @ vms.uci.kun.nl (node name changes 12 Nov. 1993)

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/wayang-kulit.hqx; 68K]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 20:55:39 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Matt X. Herbison)
Subject: "Talk" answering machine?

Hello all.  I was wondering if there is a shareware program out there that
will forward a message to someone who is trying to do a UN*X "talk" command
to me.  When they try to "talk" I would like them to automatically receive
a message (preferably via Talk) that I am out until X time doing whatever.
It would be great if the message could could be personalized according to
who was calling.  I am presently using Peter Lewis's "Talk(d)" program
(which is excellent) and I have QuicKeys (in case someone has a clever idea
to use this).  Thanks very much.

-Matt X. Herbison                       -Penn State University
[e-mail]                         -Apple Student Representative

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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1993 10:14:00 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (A:) VRAM VS DRAM

    I received several answers to my question about the benefits
    of adding DRAM vs VRAM to my Centris 610.

    In short summary:
        more VRAM allows the Mac to display more colors
        (16 or 24 bit on a Hi Res RGB monitor)

        more DRAM gives more RAM for running applications.

    Thanks again to all who responded,

            Dan

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 19:45:47 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Alex Knight)
Subject: 660AV- Problem with Virtual Memory

Hi, following up my post the other day about converting CD tracks to QT
movies,
it seems that the problem only occurs when VM is switched on. Worse, VM
also makes it impossible to print ("communication error"). Is this a
recognised problem? Better still, is there a recognised solution?

Alex

Alex Knight                                [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 04:52:22 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Barrey Jewall)
Subject: A/UX on PowerBook?

Thomas R. Lawrence writes:

>I was wondering some things about A/UX (Apple Unix), specifically:

I should mention that if you check the comp.unix.aux newsgroup,
you'll find a FAQ that should answer most of your questions.

> - What system is it based on (SYSV or BSD4.2 or BSD4.3?)

A/UX is SYSVR3.2, with many BSD features.

> - How much disk space is requires for a MINIMAL installation

I hear that people have installed it in 80MB, but I don't know
what they were doing...

> - How much for a USABLE installation (with X-windows)

I would use at least 200MB for a decent X-window install.
frodo is a Mac IIfx running A/UX 3.0.1
I've got about 1.6 Gigs, but I do a lot of development, and
also keep a s**tload of old news and mail online.

Memory wise, frodo has 20MB, and I find that sufficient.

> - Does it work on PowerBooks (specifically, a 170).

No. Apple does not support A/UX on all of their machines,
so check the list before you buy.. (in the FAQ)

> - Can the system be made "dual bootable", so that I could choose whether
>   To boot as System 7.1 or UNIX?

Yes, when you boot the Mac up, it is in Sys 7. You then run the
A/UX Startup app, which boots the UNIX Environment. When the UNIX is
up and running, you can log in with a 24 or 32-bit Finder Session (sys 7),
or run a console session, or run the X11R4 server included.

Check out comp.unix.aux for details...
--
-Barrey Jewall - Network Admin. - Novell, Inc. - San Jose - [e-mail]-
        I don't speak for Novell, and they don't speak for me.

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 93 09:35:29 ITA
From: maurizio lana <[e-mail]>
Subject: annotations in Word 5.1 ? (q)

Word for Windows has 'annotations' that allows you to make internal references
(sya that you can refer to a note not by number but by 'annotation' so that
the
 true note number is printed even if the notes succession changed).
Does Word 5.1 for Mac have something similar? it seems to me that it hasn't:
am
 I true? are there any tricks to do something similar?
Many many thanks.
maurizio

MAURIZIO LANA | E-MAIL: [e-mail] | fax [phone]
CISI - Universita' di Torino - V. S. Ottavio 20 - 10124 Torino Italy

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 13:05:51 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Apple //c to Mac by cable: OK, now it works

Hi,

I've received many replies to my posting about converting Apple //c AppleWorks
files to Mac by cable. Thanks to you all: Info-Mac is great!

Let me recall my situation:

>- Apple //c with Apple Access // communications program
>- Powerbook 165 with communications module of Clarisworks 2.0
>- Cable RS-422 (Mac) to RS-232
>- Apple //c printer cable
>- I don't have Apple //c 3.5 Inch drive
>
>I'm not an expert about transfer protocol but by setting the SAME parameters
>on both machines (BAUD rate, xon/xoff, parity, but stop, terminal emulation)
>I was able to "chat" in terminal mode between the two machines, seeing on
>screen what I was typing on the other machine.
>
>BUT: when I tried to Send a file from the Apple //c the only result was
>to "dump" the file on the PB screen. NO Mac file created.
>
>Apple Access // allow to send files in no particular protocol except the
>"Christensen". Clarisworks accept Kermit and Xmodem tool. In both
>standard I get error messages as "Too many attempts".

The replies offered me three kind of solutions:

1) Download the files as ASCII.
   OK, It works but this way I lose informations about file type (AppleWorks)
   and I can't open it by ClarisWorks as an AppleWorks file and convert it
   keeping all the original formatting.

2) Download the files by using the "capture mode" from what is dumped on the
   screen.
   OK, It works too but you can perform this ONLY in ASCII mode. Same argument
   as above

3) My transfer parameters are correct. The "Christensen" protocol is the old
   name for the "XModem" protocol.
   Mmmh: As I said in my posting, I got error message if using this way of
   transfer. So I thought to change the BAUD rate: well I discovered that
   even if Apple Access // allowed me to set 9600 BAUD, I was able to
   successfully transfer files only at *300* BAUD :-( So I set both
   Access // and ClarisWorks at this speed.
   OK here starts the fun story! ClarisWorks accept the file from the Apple
   //c
   only in "Xmodem TEXT" or "Straight XModem" modes. This way you get only
   TEXT files again.... :-( If try to set "XModem MacBinary" you got the
   error "File too big" (the file was 2K only!!!).
   I needed to download my files as simple "binary" so ClarisWorks could
   recognize and open them as Appleworks stuff. Well: I got Zterm and it
   allowed me to set this option and now I have my file on my PowerBook
   hard disk!!

Using such slow speed is no problem to me, I go watching TV or doing something
else while the two computers are "talking" but I suspect there is something
wrong. Even also the Apple //c is old I remember some of my friend were using
modem with it at 1200 BAUD.
I think it is a cable problem, IMHO, I used an old printer serial cable
(Apple //c to Scribe printer) and I don't really know if it is the same as
a modem cable.

Just a last remark: even if it couldn't transfer my files, I think
ClarisWorks is a *great* program for my purposes and in my opinion, so this
posting is *not* a flame for it!!

This is the end. Thanks again to everyone has helped me.
Greetings,
                            Federico

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Date: 08 Nov 1993 13:03:40 -0500 (EST)
From: WALLACE FELDMAN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bernoulli vs. Syquest? Help, please

Date sent:  8-NOV-1993 12:56:58
Hello, Netters!

I am planning to buy a removable drive for backup purposes. I cannot decide
between the 88meg Sy-Quest or the 150-meg Iomega Bernoulli. The latter
seems to be a better deal, in terms of both capacity and cost/meg of
cartridges, with initial purchase prices being similar for both systems. I
would like to hear from anyone with experiences, good or bad, with either
of these systems. I'll summarize to the net.

Thanks.

Wally

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Date: 8 Nov 1993 08:37:00 U
From: "WJ Shack" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Bold Symbols

Argonne National Laboratory E-Mail Memo                         Time: 8:31 AM
Subject:    Bold Symbols                                        Date:
11/8/93
>Date: Thu, 04 Nov 93 10:05:58 EST
>From: Pete Harrison <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Symbol Font (Q)
>...So, does anyone know of a cheap way of getting versions of these other
>three faces of symbol that works in a seamless way with word? (That is,
>if I choose a symbol and change its style to bold, it prints bold on
>my laserwriter compatible printer) Thanks in advance.

Install the MT symbol screen font that comes with Word 5.x  or the Adobe
Symbol screen font (free from ftp.adobe.com).  These don't provide a "true"
bold Symbol font (that costs money), but they will print a pretty good
representation of bold symbols.  The version of the screen font supplied by
Apple for some reason does not include the capability to simulate bold.

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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 13:22 CST
From: DAVID WILKINS
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Cannot access Sumex nor info-mac at Rice (A)

 I had the same problem that Russ describes below with the Sumex mirror
 at Rice.  I e-mailed the support personnel at Rice, and their response
 follows the reprinting of Russ' question.

 RUSS WROTE:
>>I am finding that everytime I try to anonymous FTP to sumex I get the
message
>>that there are too many uses. I find strange as it even happens at 9pm on a
>>Sunday evening. Is it possible that a parameter has been changed
incorrectly?
>>
>>I tried to ftp to ricevm1.rice.edu but the info-mac directory is unknown.
>>
>>Any ideas??
>>
>>Cheers,             [e-mail]
>>Russ Frisinger      cs: 71307,2342


 RICE RESPONDS:
>The files for the Info-Mac shadow archive are stored on MAC-ARCH's 256
>minidisk with generated CMS file names (MAC-ARCH Fnnnnnnn, where n...n
>is incremented each time a new file is detected in the master archive).
>There is no real directory structure to the files as stored here;  the
>email server simulates one by treating the directory name and the file
>name as one long string to look up to translate to a CMS file name.
>
>If you grab $MACARCH CONTENTS, you can see the CMS file names and use
>Fetch, but you won't like waiting while it lists all 2,887 file names
>before you can grab one.  Our shadow archive was just never designed for
>FTP access.  Sorry.
>
>Mark R. Williamson, Rice University, Houston, TX; [e-mail]
>Coordinating BITNET redistribution of Info-Mac archive files from Rice.

David Wilkins [e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 22:24:25 PST
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: e-mailing files from AOL to Internet (Q)

My brother has an AOL account, and I have only an Internet address.
He tried sending me a binhexed file by appending it to an e-mail;
unfortunately, while his e-mail got through to me, the appended
binhexed file did not.  My question is, How does one send a bihexed
file from AOL to an Internet address?  (I've successfully e-mailed
him binhexed files.)  Thanks for your help.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon,  8 Nov 1993 12:20:32 -0500
From: Mike Hutchinson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Equilibrium info

Does anyone have the phone number for Equilibrium Technologies'
bulletin board system?  According to last week's MacWeek, they're supposed
to make the DeBabelizer 1.5.5. update available on it, and I'd rather make
a long distance phone call than spend $12.50 for the disk(s) ...

Thanks
Mike Hutchinson
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 09:27 EST
From: Kenny <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ethernet hardware address before Network is EtherTalk

Does anyone know how you can get the Ethernet hardware address of a Centris
or Quadra with built-in Ethernet BEFORE you connect the Mac to EtherTalk?

(I know that AFTER you're running EtherTalk, you can open MacTCP and option
click on the Ethernet icon, but it does not work while the Mac is only
connected via LocalTalk.)

Second question:  if there is a way to get the address, is there a way to
either write it to a file or copy it to the clipboard so that one avoids
typos?

Thanks

Kenny Freundlich

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 14:53 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Dr Alun J. Carr)
Subject: Eudora 1.4 and BinHex (C)

There have been some comments floating around about Eudora 1.4 mangling
Binhex files via MIME encoding. I encountered this problem some time ago
and was told by Steve Dorner himself (gasp!) to

1) turn OFF the `May use QP' option in the Switches... dialog, and

2) turn OFF the `Always as Mac documents' option in the same dialog.

I guess that our big problem is that the rest of the world just hasn't
caught up with the state-of-the-art, represented (of course) by the Mac
community.

Hope this helps everybody.

Alun

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 12:24:00 -700 (MST)
From: "Dean E. Gunderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FAA Exam Software Recommendations?

I am interested is purchasing software that will allow me to prepare for the
FAA written Exam (private pilot).  Does anyone have any recommendations
Or suggestions as to where (list) I might direct this question?  I've seen
ads in Flying Magazine but no mouse ratings! ;)

Thanks in advance!

Please send replys to:  [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1993 10:12:45 +0000 (U)
From: WalrathW <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: CPU usage (C)

> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 10:07:05 -0600 From: [e-mail]
> (Miles Abernathy) Subject: Can You Change an App's CPU-Cycle Appetite?
>
> Can anyone in Greater Netland tell me if there is a way to change an
> application's appetite for CPU cycles?
>
[stuff deleted]
>
> Are these percentages contained in a resource or something that can be
> modified with ResEdit?
>

No, Not unless the programmer chose to do it that way, and most of the time
they dont. the Mac OS manages the queue of applications waiting for the cpu,
allowing each one to run in its turn, however once the app has the cpu, no
one
can really steal it back by force or other means; it's up to the controlling
app to release it again.

There are two sides to this situation though. Let's say we have MSWord (once
a
pretty big cpu hog, but with vers. 5.1, much nicer) running along with a
couple
other applications, and each time through its event loop it makes a call to
WaitNextEvent to allow the OS to pass time to other apps. When MSW makes this
call, it passes a value which indicates how long it is willing to let other
people have time. The OS will do its best to give the cpu back to MSW as soon
as this time has been reached, but if other applications run during this
time,
there is absolutely no guarantee that MSW will get the cpu back within that
time.  But once MSW is the front man again, it can use as much time as it
wants, regardless of what values the other applications have passed to
WaitNextEvent.

So one way to try and undermine a program's cpu usage strategy would be to
write a system extension which, by patching appropriate traps, would allow
you
to change the amount of time an application wanted to give up to others. Thus
if MSW always uses a value of half a second when it's in the background, then
we could say, "No MSW, you have to give everyone else a whole second in
between
your uses of the cpu."  Thus you have gained some control of how much other
apps get to run relative to MSW, but you still can't do anything about the
amount of time MSW runs when it has control of the CPU.

Hope this was clear enough (not to mention, correct!  :-0   )

An interesting utility for watching app's relative cpu usage is
[/info-mac/configuration/monitor-151.hqx] at Sumex.


-wayne

[e-mail]

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Date: 8 Nov 1993 10:30:53 -0800
From: "Greg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: How can an application find

Perhaps this is not the right forum for programming questions. If not, PLEASE
let me know. And if that is not the case could you direct me to a list or
digest
that this question is suited for? Thank you.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------
How can an application find it's own data fork?

I have a program in which I would like to store data (lots of text) in the
applications data fork (might as well use it for something ;) ). I have looked
high and low but can't find a function that returns a reference to the
application's
own data fork, or the application's own file for that matter.

Can anyone tell me if such a function exists, or where to look further?

Thank you.



Greg Schumacher  <[e-mail]>
Macintosh Minutemen

*Subject: How can an application find it's own data fork?

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 09:17:37 EST
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Imagewriter I (A)

Dan Frohlich asks:

DF> I have found an old Apple Imagewriter I for $55, but I don't know
DF> if I can use it with my Mac IIsi at home. I would assume I could
DF> (it is a Mac) but I'm not sure.

Yes, this works fine.  I have that exact configuration running at my home.
My IIsi is connected to my Imagewriter I (the Imagewriter is old.  I
bought it in a bundle with an Apple ///--that will give you an idea
how old it is!)  This combination works well.  You just need to get the
appropriate Mac serial cable (with a DB 25 male for the Imagewriter).
I'm a bit hazy on this, but I think that a standard Mac modem cable
with a DB25 will work fine.

DF> Will the imagewriter device driver work with an old Imagewriter I?

Yup.  The current Imagewriter driver works just fine.

Jeffrey Fritz
West Virginia University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 12:32:03 MET
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Imagewriter I (R)

[e-mail] asked:
>I have found an old Apple Imagewriter I for $55, but
>I don't know if I can use it with my Mac IIsi at home.
>I would assume I could (it is a Mac) but I'm not sure.

Yes it works. You need a special cable "Mac II to ImageWriter I"
which looks exactly like a mdem cable, but is slightly different
inside. Your "friendly Apple dealer" should have it. The Imagewriter II
cable uses a different plug - this looks like the round plug on the back
side of your Mac and won't go into an IW I printer.

>Will the imagewriter device driver work with an old Imagewriter I?

Yes, the driver "Imagewriter" is what you need. Be sure NOT to take
the "Imagewriter Appletalk" nor the "Imagewriter LQ" drivers. And
use either bitmapped fonts (you need to install double-sized versions for
best appearance - e.g. if you need to print Geneva 12, you'd install
Geneva 12 for Screen representation and Geneva 24 for the printer.
I think it works also with TrueTypes and PostScript/ATM, but I can't
say for sure since I never tried it.


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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 07:13:04 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac #220 and Disinfectant 3.3

I saw in Info-Mac Digest #220 a note (file upload) from John Norstad about
Disinfectant 3.3.  It got placed in /info-mac/vir/disinfectant3.3 and was
sized
as 239K.  A few pages later, I see a note (file upload) from Russ Pagenkopf
with Disinfectant 3.3.  This also was placed in /info-mac/vir/disinfectant3.3
but was sized as 238K.  What gives?  Which is the correct file?  Are the two
files different?  Is it wise to accept a copy of a virus protection program
>From anyone but the author?

                        Tom R.

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 10:37:15 GMT
From: [e-mail] (James Lawry student tel 2-70511)
Subject: LC475 upgrade [Q]

Netters:

Some time ago I was considering the pros and cons of upgrading
>From my LC to an LCIII. Well, due to financial constraints
(I was skint), I never did go through with the upgrade.

Now I read about the LC475, and I've decided once again to
consider upgrading. (This time it will probably happen!)
I really wanted a co-processor -- for that, I'd need
a Quadra 610. The price of these two beasties isn't
far apart, but the difference to me is: I see that an upgrade path
is offered for LC II/LC III owners. But -- no mention of LC owners!
Are we a dying breed? Have Apple forgotten us? Is there
really no way to upgrade an LC to an LC475? If I can do
that, I'll go for the LC475. If not, the Quadra 610
will get the nod.

Are there any other major differences between these
models that I should be aware of?

James Lawry
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 14:11:30 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Dan Wismer)
Subject: LocalTalk or Mac IIsi - which is the bottleneck? (Q)

We have a student lab with 17 LCII used regularly for exercices and 20+ SE
in two other rooms, where students can work for themselves.

We run a IIsi with AppleShare 3.0 as a server on a LocalTalk net
 - for automatically updating the system partitions of the LCII (with
 RevRdist)
 - and students can fetch the exercices from the server (HyperCard stacks,
   typically 10 to 30K in size).

Should we replace the IIsi with a IIfx to get better transfer speed (there
are people who think a IIsi is too slow for our LocalTalk net) or is the
net really the bottleneck and it would be a waste of power to put another
computer there ?

Is there a way I could test, if the IIsi is the bottleneck ?

Thank you for your help

Dan Wismer, Institute of Informatics, Fribourg, Switzerland

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 11:19:46 +0100 (MET)
From: hooijer j.s. <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for Jurassic Park sounds

Hello there,

I guess everyone has seen Jurassic Park by now, though it only started
here in Europe a couple of weeks ago.
I'd like to ask if anybody has made some soundclips from the movie. I just
got to have the part where they get in the electric cars and Malcolm says:
"God help us, now we're in the hands of engineers..."
Would be very appropriate where I work (aviation research lab).

advThanksance
Jeroen

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 12:31:00 MET
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacPlus memory upgrade (R)

Timothy Fisk <[e-mail]> asked:

> Am in the process of upgrading a Mac+ from 2.5 to 4 Meg by replacing the
> 2 256K SIMMS to 1M SIMMS. I understand a resistor must be cut somewhere
> on the motherboard. Could someone describe which resistor and how to
> locate it. Or give me a lead on a good reference book/magazine which
> illustrates the method used.

It's the resistor labeled "R8" on the motherboard which needs to be cut.

If you need literature, ask Connectix for "The Macintosh Memory Guide", a
60-page-booklet which answers most memory questions. They can be reached
electronically ( [e-mail] ) or by phone [phone] or
[phone].


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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 13:37:38 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: MacUser/Macworld/MacWEEK indexes

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
>         I receive MacUser and MacWeek and more oft than not read them cover
> to cover.  After having read countless issues, my memory begins to falter.
Are
> there searchable indexes to these fine publications that may be had for a
mere
> song (FTP)??!! An index would definitely be a nice addition to the
publication
> if they mailed out quarterly updates (and one for which I wouldn't mind
paying
> for).  Thanx for your help (if this applies to you).

I don't attempt to index the entire magazines, but I do include a
list of the reviews in each one in TidBITS. Since TidBITS comes out
weekly, it's far more up to date than any quarterly index would be
anyway.

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 13:31:24 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: NCSA Mosaic

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Can anyone tell me what Mosaic is, and if it is of any  use to me.  I
current
> -ly dial up into an IBM 32 somthin'  to get my mail.  I have access to an
> 030 Sun, but is not set up with a name server, or news.  Can I use Mosaic to
> dial into the sun and join usenet?

It's a browser for the World Wide Web, which is an Internet service
along the same lines as Gopher and WAIS. You need a Mac connected
to the Internet via network or SLIP/PPP and Apple's MacTCP. Without
that software and that connection, you can't use Mosaic at all.

There is a version for Unix that might run on your Sun, if it has
a connection to the Internet, but I don't know anything about it.

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 21:51:27 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Zviki Cohen)
Subject: Ofoto version 2.02

    Hello !

    The november issue of Macworld stated that the Apple Color
OneScanner is now shipped with version 2.02 of Ofoto. Since I bought my
scanner about a year ago I got version 2 of Ofoto, and I remmember reading
somewhere that scanning with Ofoto 2.0x is much faster than the older
version 2 due to some fixes/new options. Can anyone tell me where can I get
an updater ?  My dealer doesn't even know what I'm talking about )-:.

    TIA,
Zviki Cohen                          Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
E-mail: [e-mail]   Haifa, Israel

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Date: 8 Nov 1993 23:07:30 -0800
From: [e-mail] (David Lee)
Subject: PB 170 Video Out (Q)

I am looking for a way to connect my PB 170 with SVGA type monitors.
Can anyone recommend a product?  Also, how much would it cost
and how difficult to install?  Any info would be useful.  Thanks.

-Dave Lee-
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 21:00:26 EST
From: "Christopher B. Hopkins (Wesley)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: PB internal Supra 14.4 fax modem (Q

I'm in the market for an internal fax modem for my PB165.  A store
nearby has a SUPRA internal 14.4 fax modem for $225.  Sounds like
a decent price but how is the modem.  Any responses?

(hey, I know it's not the $99 external 14.4 MacWarehouse modem but...)


Christopher
[e-mail]

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Date: 9 Nov 1993 10:43:52 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Tobias Kuipers)
Subject: PD Unix for Mac (Q)

There all sorts of things on MacBSD on agate.berkeley.edu in the
directory /pub/NetBSD/mac. I don't know what it does or if it does
anything. But hey, I only got a 68000 :(

Cheers,
--
Tobias Kuipers
[e-mail] - University Of Amsterdam, The Netherlands
[e-mail] - Netherlands Cancer Institute

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Date: Mon,  8 Nov 1993 09:46 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Port for floppy drive

Could somebody tell me if the Mac IIsi is equipped with a DB-19 external
floppy
disk drive port?  I'm trying to find out if I can connect an external
SuperDrive to the IIsi.  Thanks for the help.

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem1 (bitnet)
[e-mail] (internet)

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 21:22:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Andrew Vernon <[e-mail]>
Subject: QuarkXPress list (Q)

Is anybody aware of a discussion list devoted to the use of QuarkXPress
and its companion products?

If there is, could somebody please send me the subscription address and/or
the listowner's name?

Thanks...
Andrew Vernon
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 13:01:09 +0100
From: Sak Wathanasin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Rebooting after toggling the 040 cache

In Info-mac digests vol 11 no 218, "Allan M. Bloom"
<[e-mail]> writes

> Uh yes, Sak, I think Apple does. Or more gently, I don't think
> that Apple gives a rip about anyone who has the temerity to buy
> one of their toys and not have completely compatible software.
> Rude of us, yes?

Oh c'mon, Al, that's going much too far. I've just taken delivery of a
Q840AV and have transfered all my files from my IIfx. I have yet to
run an appl that requires me to turn the cache off. I'm the last one
to claim that Apple gets everything right, but the ball on 040
compatibility is clearly in the application developer's court. If I
remember rightly, the 040 Macs were introduced over a year ago. So what's
the developer's excuse for not having an 040-compatible appl? Shouldn't
you be aiming your guns at them instead of Apple?

Sak Wathanasin
Network Analysis Limited
178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 12:30:04 MET
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Relational database for Mac (R)

[e-mail] (Martin Harris) asked:

> Can anyone advise me on what database's are available for the Mac.
> In particular I looking for a preferably relational database which
> also includes a programatic interface. The need comes from a friend
> of my who own's his small business and needs to build up a database
> of customers and stock, and then carry out some analysis on the data.

Try "Helix Express" from Helix Technologies somewhere in Northbrook,
Illinois (USA). Their European representative office is somewhere in
the UK.

I don't have the address at hand now (but I can find out for you). But
they can be reached electronically via Applelink at the address:
   STIG.G
If you come from Internet, you would write the address as:
   [e-mail]

The name of the "boss" there is Stig Graham. They can give you a
time-limited "trial version" of the program.

Helix offers a mac-like, graphical programming interface, and it comes
with tutorials and smple programs so that it's easy to handle. It's
a very powerful tool.

> Also how easy would it be to integrate information from such a DB into
> spreadsheet(Excel) and DTP (Aldus/Quark) packages.

No problem to transfer to any spreadsheet, since you can export with tabs
as field delimiters, and all (or most?) spreadsheet can import such files.
I don't know about DTP products, however.


------------------------------

Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 14:43:26 -0600
From: Todd E. Frenzel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Telnet Connect via HyperTCP

Hello learned mac and unix people,

I am using HyperTCP to open a remote connection to a Sybase server and execute
a command to query and retrieve data from hypercard.  I am having problems
getting both the SUN and NEXT servers to respond to the "Request for
Connection" and send a login: prompt back to hypercard.  Each system is
sending
a different set of bytes, I assume a request for configuration, and then will
not proceed.  I do not know what the telnetd is looking for as a response to
allow the session to continue.


What I have done to correct this is telnet to a terminal server that is not so
picky as to protocol exchange, login there, and then telnet from there to the
database server.  This works, but take unnecessary time and overhead (virtual
port assignment on the terminal server and 2 login and password prompts just
to
access the unix box.)


Does anybody know what to send to the telnetd to start a generic vt100 type
emulation and have it send the login: prompt?  If you need the actual byte
strings that I am getting, I can send you those as well, or any other info for
that matter.  Send replies to [e-mail]

Thank you,

Todd Frenzel
Texas Animal Health Commission
Austin, Texas

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 13:35:43 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Trash oddities

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Does anyone have system problems, like apps not opening properly or weird
> type 1 errors when the trash gets too big?  Mine was 15 MB, about 200+
> files and my system was acting really odd.  When I emptied it, things
> cleared up.  Norton Disk Doctor said that my disk was fine before and after
> I emptied the trash.  Any help on this one?

I didn't have that kind of problem, but the Finder slows down a lot
on my SE/30 when I put that many files in it. Dragging another file
to the trash can take 15 seconds. I use TrashMan to delete files after
they are in the trash for three days, and it does an excellent job.
:-)

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 13:08:16 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Unixes

Can anyone make any useful comparisons between A/UX and
Mach 10 Unix (or whatever the name is) for the Mac? And also
any other Unixes (Unices?) that might be around? If there
is enough response I will summarise for the net. Anything
too long for posting on info-mac, send to
[e-mail]
Thanks
Graham White

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Date: Fri Nov 05 13:57 CST 1993
From: [e-mail] (John Withers)
Subject: Upgrade possibilities for Mac SE [Q]

Hello all.

My son's grade school has just inherited an old, tired, Mac SE for
use in the classroom.  I had an opportunity to look at it for the
first time last night.  Here's what I found:

    RAM:    1MB
    HD:     10MB (That's right folks, ten)
    System: 4.2
    Finder: 6.0

    System will not boot from HD.  HD has system folder and
    everything appears OK.  Will boot from distribution tools
    diskette, but the shutter on the diskette doesn't move
    very well any more.

Now, what should I do to provide >LOW COST< upgrades to make the
system or useable and how on earth do I make it boot from the HD?

John Withers
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 13:29:04 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Vaxen and Internet access

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> I would like to enter the wonderful world of Eudora and Mosaic and all the
> other goodies I hear you all talk about.

To fully enter it, you need MacTCP and a connection, either via network
to the Internet or via SLIP/PPP and a modem to a dialin port on an
Internet machine.

> My only Internet access is at work.  We have a VAX cluster that runs VMS and
> has relatively complete VMS access to the Internet through a program called
> MULTINET.  By typing 'telnet' or 'ftp' or 'finger' at the standard '$'
> prompt, I can get to most everywhere I want to get and can successfully
> transfer ascii and binary files.  And I can send and receive mail through
the
> regular VMS MAIL facility using SMTP.  I call in to work using a typical
14.4
> kbps modem and use White Pine's Mac340 terminal program.  I also have TCP in
> my system folder, but it doesn't get used.  Running 'network' programs that
> require TCP always resutls in some kind of error.

Not surprising - this stuff doesn't work by accident - it must be
set up on purpose. :-)

> What can I do?  I've heard that I can create a SLIP connection, but I need
> software for the VAX as well as the Mac.  My VAX system administrator
doesn't
> take kindly to supporting Macs (or call-in PCs, I guess), so SLIP just draws
> a blank stare.

In that case you're pretty much out of luck. I don't believe you can
set up SLIP without administrator access.

> Is there any way I can surf the Internet with all these cool Mac programs
> using what I've got?  Can I grab a SLIP server from some ftp site and then
> run it myself on my VAX account?  Or do anything else?

You can probably run Eudora and Serial NewsWatcher via your existing
dialin setup, although it may take some work to script them. Eudora
also requires a POP server to store your mail - I have no idea if
you would have one of those running normally in addition to the SMTP
server for sending mail from Eudora.

cheers ... -Adam

Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]
Author of The Internet Starter Kit for Macintosh -- [e-mail]

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Date: Mon,  8 Nov 1993 09:28:48 -0500
From: "Andrew E. Scheck" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Water marks in MS Word 5.1 (I did it!) (C)

    Regarding my "Water marks in MS Word 5.1 (I did it!)" message, for
some reason only the first paragraph of my message (and my enclosure which
was last) made it into imdigest_v11#219. While I did do some quoting of two
other messages, the total message was much shorter than many I've seen in the
digest. Anyway, the main problem with the edited version, was that it left
out specific credit to Dwight Lemke and Tonya Engst for their help and it
also left the impression that all I accomplished was getting the PostScript
version of Draft to work--I got FAR beyond that! The following paragraph is
one of those that was omitted.

>Well, after following Tonya's instructions carefully (and not using a
>"framed" graphic in the header) just positioning the graphic using the
>ruler,  "Format/Section..." and "Format/Document" I was able to get
>essentially what I wanted: arbitrary graphic, easy positioning and perfect
>printing (yellow objects come out a nice light gray)--I'm just not able to
>see both graphic and text simultaneously on the screen.

My example shows a simple black rectangle framing each page with the words
"It works!" written in yellow (prints light gray) diagonally across the page.
This picture was generated with Word's simple graphics editor. So check
out...

[Archived as /info-mac/info/sft/water-marks-msword51.hqx; 10K]

Andy

------------------------------

Date: 8 Nov 1993 10:33:51 -0800
From: "Greg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Where can I find tech descr

Where can I find tech description of software MNP protocol?

I am developing a BBS system for a real estate sales client, a private MLS if
you please, and would like to use the CTB and Apple Modem Tool. At first I
avoid
the CTB because the lack of specifics confused me - What? A "Connection
Manager"
with no references to baud or bits? - Now I have seen the light and appreciate
the generic nature of the CTB.

Now I am considering writing (or having written) a Windows client. Problem -
how
do I duplicate the function of the CTB in terms of the software MNP? I think
what I need is a technical description of the MNP protocol. Can anyone direct
me
to this information?

Thank you.



Greg Schumacher  <[e-mail]>
Macintosh Minutemen

*Subject: Where can I find tech description of software MNP protocol?

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Date: 8 Nov 93 12:08:46 GMT +0100
From: [e-mail]

Hello out there in netland

Wanted:  Program to recongize music for apple-Powerbook

Description: I am looking for Hardware/Software to digitize sound
         and later produce something like the following:

1. starting point of the tone
2. pitch
3. volume
4. end of tone.

Saving standard: MIDI-format.

Aim: To sing into the apple and see it in notation on the screen.

Please reply in e-mail (I don't subscribe to this newsgroup) to:

[e-mail]

TIA
Andreas

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